[Grml] GRML Accessibility Features

Simon Eigeldinger simon.eigeldinger at vol.at
Sat Feb 13 11:08:44 CET 2016


Hi,

its weird.
maybe michael could chime in and bring some light in.

greetings,
simon

Am 13.02.2016 um 10:21 schrieb covici at ccs.covici.com:
> I was using a 64-bit one as of early January and did not see  this.
> Maybe they did something  -- I have nowto build a custom one as
> myfilesystems are now zfs.
>
> Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger at vol.at> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I don't know if you don't get it or don't understand:
>> I am using grml for years now and had the quick menu before as well.
>> now with the new cd there you are taken to the login prompt.
>> I used this iso:
>> http://daily.grml.org/grml32-full_sid/latest/grml32-full_sid_latest.iso
>>
>> I wonder if there has been a major change in the system recently.
>>
>> greetings,
>> simon
>> Am 12.02.2016 um 17:17 schrieb John G Heim:
>>> Oops, it occurs to me that if you are booting from a CD, you can't do an
>>> eject. I always run grml from a thumb drive. That is why I forgot about
>>> that. By the way, it runs way better from a thumb drive than from a CD.
>>>
>>> Here is a script I use to build a grml bootable thumb drive.  You can
>>> set the environmental variables GRMLDEVICE and GRMLISO and just run it.
>>> Or you can pass them in as parameters. Or you can just run the script
>>> and it will ask. GRMLDEVICE is the device name of your thumb drive and
>>> GRMLISO is the path to a grml iso file. The script will format the thumb
>>> drive and then run grml2usb for you.
>>>
>>>
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>
>>> test ! -z "$1" && GRMLDEVICE="$1"
>>> if [ -z "$GRMLDEVICE" ]; then
>>>       DEFAULT=/dev/sdb
>>>       echo -n "Device (default=${DEFAULT}): "
>>>       read GRMLDEVICE
>>>       test -z "$GRMLDEVICE" && GRMLDEVICE="$DEFAULT"
>>> fi
>>>
>>> test ! -z "$2" && GRMLISO="$2"
>>> if [ -z "$GRMLISO" ]; then
>>>       for DEFAULT in grml64-full_*; do continue; done
>>>       echo -n "GRML iso file (default=$DEFAULT): "
>>>       read GRMLISO
>>>       test -z "$GRMLISO" && GRMLISO="$DEFAULT"
>>> fi
>>> echo "Building grml on $GRMLDEVICE using $GRMLISO"
>>>
>>> P1SIZE=2G
>>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} mklabel msdos
>>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} mkpart pri fat16 512 ${P1SIZE}
>>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} mkpart pri ext2 ${P1SIZE} 100%
>>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} set 1 boot on
>>> sync
>>>
>>> mkfs.vfat -n grml "${GRMLDEVICE}1"
>>> mke2fs -L persistence "${GRMLDEVICE}2"
>>>
>>> grml2usb --bootoptions="persistence"
>>> --bootoptions="mypath=/home/grml/persistent" "${GRMLISO}" "${GRMLDEVICE}1"
>>>
>>> MOUNTPOINT=/tmp/loop
>>> test ! -d "$MOUNTPOINT" && mkdir "$MOUNTPOINT"
>>> mount "${GRMLDEVICE}2" "$MOUNTPOINT"
>>> cat /dev/null > "${MOUNTPOINT}/persistence.conf"
>>> echo "/home/grml/persistent" >> "${MOUNTPOINT}/persistence.conf"
>>> umount "$MOUNTPOINT"
>>> rmdir "$MOUNTPOINT"
>>> # EOF
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/12/2016 10:07 AM, John G Heim wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is a menu that comes up when you boot grml. Could that be what
>>>> you are getting? You should be able to press the Q key to get a
>>>> command prompt. And then try the eject command to see if it opens your
>>>> CD drawer. If you don't have a CD drive, you could also try beep. Once
>>>> you're sure you are at the command prompt, you can type in the
>>>> commands to start speech. You probably already know this but just in
>>>> case, the commands are:
>>>>
>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>> espeakup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/12/2016 08:51 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> it seems that there is a login screen coming up by default after the
>>>>> cd has stopped spinning.
>>>>>
>>>>> greetings,
>>>>> simon
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 12.02.2016 um 14:52 schrieb John G Heim:
>>>>>> If you have a smart phone and the KNFB reader, you might be able to get
>>>>>> it to read enough of the screen to you to tell if it's stuck part way
>>>>>> through the boot. I've had maybe a 50% success rate with that
>>>>>> technique.
>>>>>> Another thing you can do is to try commands like beep and eject. If
>>>>>> those work, you know you're at the command line. If you are typing in
>>>>>> the commands to get speech and it's not working, then it's probably a
>>>>>> sound issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/12/2016 05:33 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was having this on for a few minutes after it stopped spinning so to
>>>>>>> make sure this might be it.
>>>>>>> but maybe there might be an error message.
>>>>>>> tested the 32 bit latest daily sid build.
>>>>>>> when i have a set of eyes around i will recheck and write back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> greetings,
>>>>>>> simon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 12.02.2016 um 00:46 schrieb covici at ccs.covici.com:
>>>>>>>> On my system, it takes quite a long time till the musical tone
>>>>>>>> comes up,
>>>>>>>> it usually is at least 2-3 minutes.  It must be a network
>>>>>>>> timeout.  This
>>>>>>>> is with betas as of beginning of January.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger at vol.at> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just refreshed my rescue cd with the latest grml sid daily.
>>>>>>>>> so according to the wiki page at
>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=accessibility
>>>>>>>>> i just have to wait until a musical tune will come up during boot.
>>>>>>>>> what i hear is the beep of the boot prompt but the musical tune is
>>>>>>>>> missing.
>>>>>>>>> ok the document has been last modified in 2013 so there could be
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> been a lot of changes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> could someone please tell me how to start grml using software speech
>>>>>>>>> using speakup?
>>>>>>>>> should be the old way but it seems it doesn't reach the console.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> greetings and thanks,
>>>>>>>>> simon
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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