[Grml] GRML Accessibility Features

John G Heim jheim at math.wisc.edu
Fri Feb 12 19:21:03 CET 2016

Oh, sorry. But the thread is titled "grml accessibility features". 
Naturally, I was assuming you were asking about grml's accessibility 
features. Anyway, I think the daily build is probably just broken. On my 
system, it goes into a loop where itdisplays a login prompt, times out, 
bleeps, and then displays the login prompt again. That's not so much an 
accessibility problem as a boot problem. But at any rate, I can confirm 
the bug.

On 02/12/2016 10:26 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
> John,
> I don't know if you don't get it or don't understand:
> I am using grml for years now and had the quick menu before as well.
> now with the new cd there you are taken to the login prompt.
> I used this iso:
> http://daily.grml.org/grml32-full_sid/latest/grml32-full_sid_latest.iso
> I wonder if there has been a major change in the system recently.
> greetings,
> simon
> Am 12.02.2016 um 17:17 schrieb John G Heim:
>> Oops, it occurs to me that if you are booting from a CD, you can't do an
>> eject. I always run grml from a thumb drive. That is why I forgot about
>> that. By the way, it runs way better from a thumb drive than from a CD.
>> Here is a script I use to build a grml bootable thumb drive. You can
>> set the environmental variables GRMLDEVICE and GRMLISO and just run it.
>> Or you can pass them in as parameters. Or you can just run the script
>> and it will ask. GRMLDEVICE is the device name of your thumb drive and
>> GRMLISO is the path to a grml iso file. The script will format the thumb
>> drive and then run grml2usb for you.
>> #!/bin/bash
>> test ! -z "$1" && GRMLDEVICE="$1"
>> if [ -z "$GRMLDEVICE" ]; then
>>      DEFAULT=/dev/sdb
>>      echo -n "Device (default=${DEFAULT}): "
>>      read GRMLDEVICE
>>      test -z "$GRMLDEVICE" && GRMLDEVICE="$DEFAULT"
>> fi
>> test ! -z "$2" && GRMLISO="$2"
>> if [ -z "$GRMLISO" ]; then
>>      for DEFAULT in grml64-full_*; do continue; done
>>      echo -n "GRML iso file (default=$DEFAULT): "
>>      read GRMLISO
>>      test -z "$GRMLISO" && GRMLISO="$DEFAULT"
>> fi
>> echo "Building grml on $GRMLDEVICE using $GRMLISO"
>> P1SIZE=2G
>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} mklabel msdos
>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} mkpart pri fat16 512 ${P1SIZE}
>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} mkpart pri ext2 ${P1SIZE} 100%
>> parted ${GRMLDEVICE} set 1 boot on
>> sync
>> mkfs.vfat -n grml "${GRMLDEVICE}1"
>> mke2fs -L persistence "${GRMLDEVICE}2"
>> grml2usb --bootoptions="persistence"
>> --bootoptions="mypath=/home/grml/persistent" "${GRMLISO}" 
>> MOUNTPOINT=/tmp/loop
>> test ! -d "$MOUNTPOINT" && mkdir "$MOUNTPOINT"
>> cat /dev/null > "${MOUNTPOINT}/persistence.conf"
>> echo "/home/grml/persistent" >> "${MOUNTPOINT}/persistence.conf"
>> umount "$MOUNTPOINT"
>> rmdir "$MOUNTPOINT"
>> # EOF
>> On 02/12/2016 10:07 AM, John G Heim wrote:
>>> There is a menu that comes up when you boot grml. Could that be what
>>> you are getting? You should be able to press the Q key to get a
>>> command prompt. And then try the eject command to see if it opens your
>>> CD drawer. If you don't have a CD drive, you could also try beep. Once
>>> you're sure you are at the command prompt, you can type in the
>>> commands to start speech. You probably already know this but just in
>>> case, the commands are:
>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>> espeakup
>>> On 02/12/2016 08:51 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> it seems that there is a login screen coming up by default after the
>>>> cd has stopped spinning.
>>>> greetings,
>>>> simon
>>>> Am 12.02.2016 um 14:52 schrieb John G Heim:
>>>>> If you have a smart phone and the KNFB reader, you might be able 
>>>>> to get
>>>>> it to read enough of the screen to you to tell if it's stuck part way
>>>>> through the boot. I've had maybe a 50% success rate with that
>>>>> technique.
>>>>> Another thing you can do is to try commands like beep and eject. If
>>>>> those work, you know you're at the command line. If you are typing in
>>>>> the commands to get speech and it's not working, then it's probably a
>>>>> sound issue.
>>>>> On 02/12/2016 05:33 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I was having this on for a few minutes after it stopped spinning 
>>>>>> so to
>>>>>> make sure this might be it.
>>>>>> but maybe there might be an error message.
>>>>>> tested the 32 bit latest daily sid build.
>>>>>> when i have a set of eyes around i will recheck and write back.
>>>>>> greetings,
>>>>>> simon
>>>>>> Am 12.02.2016 um 00:46 schrieb covici at ccs.covici.com:
>>>>>>> On my system, it takes quite a long time till the musical tone
>>>>>>> comes up,
>>>>>>> it usually is at least 2-3 minutes.  It must be a network
>>>>>>> timeout.  This
>>>>>>> is with betas as of beginning of January.
>>>>>>> Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger at vol.at> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> I just refreshed my rescue cd with the latest grml sid daily.
>>>>>>>> so according to the wiki page at
>>>>>>>> http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=accessibility
>>>>>>>> i just have to wait until a musical tune will come up during boot.
>>>>>>>> what i hear is the beep of the boot prompt but the musical tune is
>>>>>>>> missing.
>>>>>>>> ok the document has been last modified in 2013 so there could be
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> been a lot of changes.
>>>>>>>> could someone please tell me how to start grml using software 
>>>>>>>> speech
>>>>>>>> using speakup?
>>>>>>>> should be the old way but it seems it doesn't reach the console.
>>>>>>>> greetings and thanks,
>>>>>>>> simon
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