[Grml] Re: Re: A view requests to make remastering easier

[Michael Prokop]

* T <mlist4suntong at yahoo.com> [20060922 19:37]:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:07:29 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
> > * T <mlist4suntong at yahoo.com> [20060922 05:15]:

> >> > Ok, so you mean you want to get a special bootoption which runs
> >> > 'grml-x -force -nostart wm-ng' in background during bootup?

> >> I think that should be default, if there is no xorg.conf created.

> > NACK

> Can I know why? 

> I meant, by default, grml should create xorg.conf if there is no xorg.conf
> exists. What would it hurt to do so?

grml is (especially) for texttool users and sysadmins. Many of them
don't use/start X at all. Running grml-x when booting is a
time + memory consuming task. So no reason to run it by default.
Of course that's no reason to *not* support it on *request* via a
special bootoption, I'll add this option for the future.

*If* someone needs X he should become familiar with grml-x and its
possibilities.

> >> So if I feel like to start X, just type startx, without any pre-req
> >> hassles. If I want to further configure my ATI drivers, the default
> >> xorg.conf is already there for the "aticonfig"...

> > No. You have to specify the window manager you want to use in any case.

> To me, creating an xorg.conf has nothing to do with choosing a window
> manager. why is this a issue stopping creating xorg.conf?

You have to specify the window manager you want to use in any case.

Using "grml-x $WINDOWMANAGER" works and people are used to it.  If a
file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists already (and maybe an adjusted
~/.xinitrc version, which fits your needs as well) you don't have to
use grml-x anymore. So if you need a special xorg.conf variant or
always work on the same box consider use of grml's configuration
options from the configuration framework (see
http://grml.org/config/ - save-config, GRMLCFG,...). If you are
using a hd-installation you don't have to care about it at all. :)

> > And as soon as a xorg.conf exists you can use startx anyway.

> I agree. I think that's the whole point of this discussion. 
> BTW, I use fluxbox, so choosing another window manager is not an issue to
> me. 

For *you*, but there are other grml users out there. ;)

regards,
-mika-
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